Product review - Polar CS200 CAD

Tuesday, November 28 2006

When I bought my roadie, I was faced with the question of which cycling computer to buy. I had decided that I wanted to take training a bit more seriously and wanted a heart rate monitor, and I wanted something to measure cadence.

After looking around at a bunch of options, the Polar CS200 CAD seemed to fit all my criteria, so I started poking around the place for some online reviews. Here I met a big issue, the quality of review data for cycling stuff online is really poor. If you do a search for "<productname> review", you get hundreds of results for online shops with "be the first to review x". So onto the various forums I went.

In the forums, you'll find a lot of bad stories about this particular gadget, for every thread about it, you'll find a couple of people who seemed to have lots of problems, usually ending with them returning the unit. This was pretty disconcerting, but I got thinking about a couple of points.

It's pretty well accepted that people that are satisfied with a product are less likely to be vocal about it than the people that are dissatisfied. So, people who bought it, and have had it work fine without any issues are likely to be just out using it, not whining on a forum.

Secondly, if you think about the ratio of smart people to total nuffies you meet on any given day, you gotta figure that a bunch of the people whining, no matter how convincing they sound, were just doing something dumb. The louder they scream about doing everything right, the more likely it is that they had the cadence sensor on the rear derailer, and the HR strap around their head.

Lastly, Polar obviously sell a crapload of these, and if there were that many problems, it wouldn't be worth selling.

Anyway, enough of the background info.... I bought it, and have been riding with it for 5 months.

My concerns seem to have been unwarranted, it works great. I suspect a lot of people might be messing up the installation, I got mine installed at the shop when I bought the bike, as I wanted to rule that possible issue out.

The main worry with wireless computers is dropouts and interference. So far I haven't seen any crazy numbers come up, except for the night the chest strap was in my backpack picking who knows what. The figures always seem reasonable at the end of a ride. As for dropouts, I had a very short one while crossing the Harbour Bridge, where I'd been told that nothing will work at all. I also had a minor dropout during the Spring Cycle, while near an apartment block in Rhodes, not sure what that was about. I've ridden with this in heat, cold, rain, mass rides and fast group bunches, so I've covered off most of the riding conditions except actual racing. So far so good.

The unit itself is well made, smaller than it looks in a lot of photos, and a nice shape and design. The screen is easy to read, and has backlighting for nighttime riding (not that I've ever used that).

While riding, you can rotate the display through a number of different modes which display different datapoints on the screen at once. I leave mine on the standard one which shows Speed and Heart Rate on the large areas, cadence in a smaller one, and distance at  the top. Some of the other stats you can show in different modes include average speed, ride time / stopwatch and lap time.

The computer stores up to 7 "sessions", which is good if you log all your data somewhere, but want to get out for another ride before you've found the time to transfer it. While not in riding mode, you can open up any of these files and review all the summary data like ride time, Average and Max speed, Heart Rate and Cadence, time in the preset HR zone and calories burned. The HR zone feature is a little limited, it allows you to set a maximum and minimum heart rate, and shows you time in zone, time above the zone, and time below the zone. This isn't bad, but most modern heart rate training methods work of 5 zones which is a feature included in the higher model Polar units.

Transferring the data is a little tedious, and this is one of my annoyances with Polar. The unit allows you to transfer data via their SonicLink technology, which means that your PC records the beeps and squeaks output by the unit's speaker, and sends this to the polar training website. This website is a Flash based application, and one of the most annoying and counter intuitive applications I've seen. Although it would be simple, Polar haven't included a way to store the raw data on your PC. They have this technology available, as you can do it if you pony up the $800 for their higher models which use the exact same method, so it's just a marketing decision not to include it. Like I said, it's annoying, but I knew about it beforehand, so I can't complain too much. Instead I manually copy the data into the very excellent CycliStats and store it all there.

Another minor gripe is that it can take a few seconds to update it's data display if you make a major change in something, for example going from coasting to pedalling quickly will not show on the cadence display for a few seconds. It makes sense why this is happening, they are doing an average over a couple of seconds to give you a more accurate picture of what you are really doing, so there really isn't a good way around that one. It's not a big deal and I can live with it.

All in all, the CS200 is a great unit with a good set of features. It's well made, looks cool, seems tough, and has been very reliable. The cadence and speed sensors don't get in the way or look ridiculous and the stem mount makes it easy to remove and insert the head unit. As I mentioned, there are a couple of minor annoyances, but nothing I can't live with.

Some other options I looked at were the CatEye range. Their double wireless looked great, but didn't have the heart rate monitor, and their heart rate model didn't have cadence sensor. Similarly, the Vetta range had some models with some great features, but no model I could find had all the options. Lastly was the new Garmin Edge. Bike computer, Heart Rate, Cadence and GPS. Pure geek fun. Unfortunately it seemed like they were having lots of teething problems. In the first 3 months there were a pile of new firmware versions, each one fixing some bugs and re-introducing some old ones. Garmin are going to be the company to watch in this space, once they get the issues sorted out, and can get some better battery life they will have a hell of a product.

Finally, if you're soon to be in the market for something like this, keep an eye out for the new CS 400, which looks a bit cooler and adds an altimeter.

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Comments

Tom said on 1.11.2007 at 7:13 PM

Thanks for the review...you're right hard to get fair reviews for cycling products online, your's seems pretty balanced. I bought mine tonight and will set it up, can't wait to see what it can do...
Thanks again,
Tom


Damian said on 1.12.2007 at 2:07 AM

Excellent Tom, thanks for the comments. Hope it works out for you.


Alex said on 1.28.2007 at 11:15 AM

I just bought a CS100 and now I am all terrified that it isnt going to work. I have read a lot of crappy reviews on this thing (of course I read them after I bought it) but I hope it works out because I really like all of its features. I used a wired sigma computer before that and absolutely loved it.


Damian said on 1.28.2007 at 1:41 PM

I'm sure you'll be fine Alex. I had a wired Sigma as well on my old bike. Other than the fact that it calculates the average speed wrong they it's a good computer.


Brendan said on 2.22.2007 at 11:36 PM

Quick question - Can you swap the CS200cad between two bikes without setup issues ie two sets of sensors and one unit.

And can you put the sensors on the rear for use with an indoor trainer.


Mark said on 3.15.2007 at 3:23 PM

I swap mine between three bikes without any problems. All the sensors work out of the box and the only setup change is for wheel size if different.

Don't think the range is good enough for trainer use unless you mount the computer on the top tube close to the saddle.


Phil H said on 3.21.2007 at 5:35 AM

mate I got one too, I reckon it's a good all-in-one for the price, for someone who doesn't want lots of detailed training data., but does want to see their HR cadence and speed/distance while they are training.

Thanks for the tip for Cyclistats, Ill check that out!


brad said on 4.01.2007 at 11:14 AM

Has anyone had a problem w/ the placement of the cadence sensor?? I had mine out for one trip and my heal hit the sensor and it broke? Seems like a horrible place for it, looking for some feedback.


Jim said on 4.10.2007 at 6:42 AM

I don't have the cadence on mine, but have just purchased the CS200. I had no dropouts the first couple of rides, but had a long ride this weekend, and it went into pause while I was going around 30 mph. On several occasions it went from 20 mph to 4 or 5 and then it paused again. Quite frustrating when you are riding hard. I am not so certain that this was not related to power lines,in the area. Once home I spun the front wheel and moved the computer itself to several locations while in hand. It appears to pick up the signal fine, starts and stops fine and position on handle bars seems to be within the appropriate range when testing manually. I assume my issue was power lines at this point.


Jennie said on 5.27.2007 at 4:48 PM

Ive had my Polar cs200 for about 3 months now with a few dropouts but no major problems. Yesterday I did a fast group ride and it rained on us, not a heavy rain but enough. This morning I showed up to a very fast group ride, and my polar wouldnt pickup heart rate, speed, or cad. Since it wasnt picking anything up it kept shutting itself off. Very frustrating. I just pulled it out now to check it and it still will not pick up heart rate. I am assuming it has something to do with the rain. Anyone have this happen? Any advice?


DamianM said on 5.27.2007 at 5:00 PM

I've ridden in heavy rain without issue, but it certainly sounds like the culprit. Maybe give it a day or two somewhere warm to dry out, then waranty time.


Ron said on 5.29.2007 at 7:27 PM

After returning my polar for repairs after only a few months and having a number of issues getting it to 'find' it's own wireless components, I replaced it with a garmin. Now before you start thinking I'm a total fool and can't do anything, think again. In general the polar (one that works right) should be great for someone who wants an HRM that also has some bicyclign features. If you want a bike computer that also has HRM, look elsewhere cause this critter has LOTS of HRM features that a biker wotn use, but the cycling features are a bit thin.


Joe said on 6.07.2007 at 12:13 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the reviews, i was looking to a new cycling computer, this seems good, but whats the interval abilities like? does it have heart rate information on these intervals? it would be nice to be able to record it somewhere. Cheers


Damian said on 6.07.2007 at 4:12 PM

This is what you don't get with the CS200. If you want time spent across 5 zones and have it tell you what intervals to do you need to spend up to the 720s. The CS200 has one configurable zone, and it will tell you time in that zone, time above and time below. But it won't manage your intervals for you.


wayne said on 7.20.2007 at 4:53 AM

can someone tell me how to delete the 50 lap times.i've deleted all files but the lap times remain. thanks


Julian said on 8.30.2007 at 3:32 PM

I'm thinking of buying a new CS200 CAD on EBay on which Polar Australia won't honour the warranty. Does this seem a bit risky? Is it worth paying the extra $60 or $70 to buy one here with a full warranty?


Damian said on 8.30.2007 at 4:00 PM

I considered this as well, and ended up going with buying it at the shop. I've never needed the warranty though.

One of the big benefits of buying it a bike shop is you can get them to fit it for you, and I think that is where most of the problems happen.


Julian said on 8.31.2007 at 5:13 AM

Thanks Damian for your advice. I'm a bit cautious when it comes to expensive items like this and I reckon it's worth spending a little more for that peace of mind. Also a big thank you for setting up your website and forum. It's a great way for people with similar interests to share their experiences. I'll let you know how I get on with CS 200 when I get it!


Julian said on 9.05.2007 at 2:50 PM

After fitting the CS 200 myself (which was pretty fiddly actually) things seem to be going OK so far. There is the occasional wacky reading for the heart rate, which I am assuming has something to do with powerlines, but other wise evrything seems to work OK. I agree with one of the earlier posts about the delay in speed and cadence updating being a bit annoying, but you do get used to it. I'm also coming to grips withe the plethora of information available from the various readout options. After a bit of mucking around I've also managed to uplink some training files to the polar Personal trainer site and also downloaded an odometer reading from the Uplink Tool which didn't work first time but is OK now. Still can't get any Logos to download, although I was really only trying it to see what it was like, so I won't persist with that. Hope everyone is enjoying their rides now with a bit of warmer weather, Cheers


Bianchi said on 10.07.2007 at 3:39 AM

Had my CS200 now for about two years,and has done about 10 000km"on" it.
From day one the speed-distance was inacurrate and Polar SA has change the speed pick-up as they suspect it was faulty-well the problem is still there and my Polar"under-reads"by +-11%. I have change the settings for the wheel size to varies figures to see whether I can't compensate for it........no joy!!

I suppose I just got one of the"problem children",but I will replace it today with something that works........CATEYE !!